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what we need is a video of someone struggling to pull shotguns on to see how easy or hard it is.


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Put simply, it is a struggle if the legs are too tight or the leather too thick or you're too pissed to stand. If the leather's a sensible weight, the legs are wide enough to accomodate your boots and you're fairly sober it is, as Boot says, as easy as putting on a pair of trousers.

Do you remember the eighties? The nineteen eighties? When people wore jeans so tight they had to lie down to do them up? Girls would daily sew themselves into the ankles of their trousers after having had to jump up and down to cram their thighs into the legs. Meanwhile your Grandad would simply step into his Victor Sylvesters (plenty of ball room), baggy old man trousers and do them up in seconds.

Chaps are the same with period chaps being as simple to put on as the old man trousers and modern shotgun chaps tending more to the eighties schoolgirl fit. If you're talking period correct shotgun chaps it's not a problem. If your mate's talking more modern shotgun chaps, I couldn't care less how much trouble he's having putting them on.
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Take a look at the picture on post #8. There are conchos present. Admittedly it's a late photograph. Even so there is a ratio of only 1 to 5 with conchos.

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I can't recall seeing conches on any period images of shotgun chaps,and i seem to recall reading in cowboys and trappings that conchos didn't come in until the turn of the century on gun belts etc. Anyone care to comment? PS Nice looking chaps though.
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There's three examples with conchos in the Chaps section of "cowboys and Trappings"
all from the 1890s, it seems they were not uncommon by then at least.

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I noticed when looking at original shotgun chaps with conchos they all seem attached by a strip of leather running down the outside edge of the leg.And they all have straight bottoms at the cuffs not shaped.
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I've only seen that type also.

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I've yet to see period chaps with concho's, shaped cuffs, stumpy fringes or scalloped belt re-enforcements. That might just mean that I haven't looked hard enough mind but the working chaps of the period were working gear, protection, rainwear, wind stoppers ets. Who'd wanna pimp their high viz jacket?

 

Surely one of the jobs that both chaps and now chinks fulfill is to stop a dallied rope burning through your trousers? Why would you then wanna fit metal discs to them that'll catch in the rope? Well, I guess we'll learn soon enough.

 

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http://www.panhistoria.com/www/Wyatt/images/cowboysatbar.jpg
What about this image ?
There are others, plus the original pairs in "Cowboys and Trappings "

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My error Boot, I should have said pre 1890 rather than period. I believe those in the photo and the book are later?

That said I still think it's odd to pimp your work wear but I'll believe it of any genuine period evidence. Your picture, while slightly later does indeed appear to show working men in their gear and one of them has indeed got the pimped version. That doesn't make it a common practice but shows that it was done. 

Have you got any fancy scalloped belt re-enforcements, stumpy fringes or shaped cuffs that're pre 1890?
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I agree there's not much evidence come to light pre 1890 thus far.
Cowboy pictures are not that common from the 80s and the 70s are virtually non excistant.
It was certainly not uncommon to "Pimp" your work wear in the 1890s.

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The image Boot posted,was taken in 1907,its the boys from the L.S. Ranch,the photo was taken in 1907 in Old Tascosa.I have several books from the 1900s Texas period ranches,I knew I saw this image previous,what a nice photo .
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I'm sure this thread made more sense before, did someone delete a load of their posts?
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True boot there isn't much photographic evidence from the 70's and 80's but I don't think there's any surviving examples of the more styalised chaps either.
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